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MELBOURNE | 600 Collins Street | 54L | 186m | Mixed Use

Ryan Seychell's picture
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May as well make a thread for this one:

Site sold recently, AFR article: http://www.afr.com/real-estate/henkell-syndicate-cashes-in-on-collins-20...

Development includes:

- 70 level mixed use tower

- 1100 apartments

- $1 billion

- Planned completion, 2021

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Alastair Taylor's picture
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Mark Baljak's picture

Looks very Bates Smart, based on one cropped render of course

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Ryan Seychell's picture

Has a hint of the original Queensbridge Tower design about it...

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Laurence Dragomir's picture

I'd be inclined to say Bates Smart as well.

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Nicholas Harrison's picture

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Mark Baljak's picture

that would do it

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Qantas743's picture

Looks good, although won't it almost certainly be cut down to prevent overshadowing?

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Nicholas Harrison's picture

Probably end up 217m to stay under OLS.

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Qantas743's picture

Why are they even bothering lodging at ~220m-240m?

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Andrew's picture

Two Auroras for Melbourne? Sign me up.

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Laurence Dragomir's picture

Zaha Hadid involved in a different scheme.

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Qantas743's picture

Chopped down to around 180m I believe thanks to the new policies.

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Nicholas Harrison's picture

They just didn't get the application in on time :-(

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Laurence Dragomir's picture

Plot ratio was looking like 32:1.

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Nicholas Harrison's picture

It would be limited to 180m because of the overshadowing requirements.

It is a 2400 square metre site so the maximum floorspace can be 57,600.
A 10 level podium covering the entire site = 24,000sqm leaving 33,600sqm of floorspace for the tower above or 46 levels with an average floor area of 730 square metres.

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Qantas743's picture

They should hold off until final policies are announced next year.

Massive waste of a site otherwise.

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db2's picture

The site would be excellent for an office tower instead of another residential.

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Ryan Seychell's picture

Considering 568 is next door to this and already 224m, i'd be happy with 180m to create some height variation. Also, Zaha Hadid design > height.

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db2's picture

Ah, I missed that part. New Zaha Hadid 180m design?

That should be very interesting indeed.

We have 249m Premier Tower and 270m Ritz Carlton nearby for height; so yes, a shrink but nicer design will be a good outcome.

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Qantas743's picture

Still, if they wait a bit longer it could mean we end up with a Zaha Hadid building AND something slightly higher.

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db2's picture

I doubt Wynnie will change his Yarra overshadowing rules in the new rules come next September.

I don't think higher is viable on this site until a change in planning minister, 3 or 7 years from now.

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Andrew Mck's picture

I bet the Poo can't wait to cut this one down.

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3000's picture

oh look, another height complaint.

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Michael Berquez's picture

180m there would sit well I think

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Adam Ford's picture

I love the way in which the semiotics of "stellar, supremely gifted architect" are given an equivalence with "geez it'd be awesome if it were 20m taller".

So to be clear, on a design you haven't seen, you're convinced it's going to be a better design or urban outcome or any of the actual metrics people who come here value by virtue of being 20m taller?

It's such a goddamn pity the Parthenon is so short ...

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