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The Vic Government prior to the 2010 election campaigned on creating studies into various rail extensions around the city - Rowville, Doncaster, Avalon and Tullamarine - this thread is here for all and any discussion on the respective studies.

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http://urbanmelbourne.info/transport-opinion/2013/03/14/the-ballieunapth...

The Ballieu government when it assumed office in 2010, came to power promising to study various metropolitan rail extensions around Melbourne: Rowville, Doncaster, Avalon airport and Tullamarine airport. In the middle of 2012 public submissions were called for by the study team comprising SKM, Hassell, Mott MacDonald and Phoenix Facilitation and just last week, the final report was released by the government. You can see all the documents released here on the Rowville Rail Study website.

To summarise

the findings of the report, it has been recommended and found:

a rail line down the North & Wellington road median is viable with a few caveats, namely relating to rail capacity further up the line and the project being dependent on the Melbourne Metro tunnel project and Dandenong corridor expansion.
by 2046, 68,000 people will use the line on 4 stations (Monash University, Mulgrave, Waverley Park and Rowville), 16,000 of which will use the service in the morning peak (7-9am). However the study teams report states that a further patronage study should be conducted when/if the project proceeds as per page 4 Executive Summary.
the overwhelming majority of community sentiment wants a one-seat direct train journey to the CBD, refer to: Table 8, Page 34 Final stage 1 report.
the line would run at a peak frequency of 6 trains an hour in a shuttle or full Dandenong corridor expansion scenario and limited to 3 trains an hour without the Dandenong corridor expansion scenario - refer: Table 7, Page 35 Final stage 1 report.
the line east of Huntingdale, as a best case, would be a mix of tunnel, open cutting and elevated structures, refer to: Figure 17, Page 40 Final stage 1 report.
station platforms would be able to take 9-car trains that are mooted as part of the Dandenong corridor expansion.
and perhaps most importantly: "Although this first stage of the study is focused on a rail link specifically between Huntingdale and Rowville along the Wellington Road corridor, previous studies and the many comments we have received from the community and stakeholders over recent months have raised other ideas and possibilities, which we summarise diagrammatically in Figure 14.

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Tony Abbott as quote in The Age article linked above:
"Now the Commonwealth government has a long history of funding roads. We have no history of funding urban rail and I think it's important that we stick to our knitting, and the Commonwealth's knitting when it comes to funding infrastructure is roads."

Considering where our two major cities are at in terms of their transport needs, and the current and projected costs of congestion, and the limited capacity of more roads to relieve that congestion, then the above quote must be one of the dumbest statements on this countries transport needs for a loooooooong time. When you add in his 'haven't done it in the past so we won't do it in the future' reasoning then you can only conclude that the man is a fool.

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Alastair Taylor's picture

From: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/federal-labor-have-offered-funding-for-...

Metro tunnel scored from Canberra

$1bil from circa 2018 and $2bil circa 2020-2023. Requires contribution matched from Vic government and $bil from private sector.

New type of PPP will be explored - similar to the agreement come up with re: Peninsula Link.

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Ryan Seychell's picture

Testing under the Yarra for Melbourne Metro tunnel:

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Daniel Wilson's picture

Any more news on this?

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Martin Mankowski's picture

From: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/solution-offered-on-doncaster-dilemma-...

Solution offered on Doncaster dilemma

"A plan to build a railway line to Doncaster at a cost of up to $11 billion is so costly that the proposal risks being permanently shelved. But it could be rescued with two major changes, the state's public transport lobby group says.
Tony Morton, the Public Transport Users Association president, said the high price-tag of the URS proposal for Doncaster rail was prohibitive.
''We say [the tunnel] is not necessary because Doncaster rail could be realised through other means,'' Dr Morton said.
Dr Morton said some European cities had high-speed signalling systems that enabled trains to run together at headways of less than two minutes."

The PTUA seem to have an obsession with building Doncaster over everything else. Whilst I think its obviously a beneficial piece of infrastructure, prioritising it over something like the MM, which will benefit the whole network, seems silly. And speaking of silly, saying a signalling upgrade will fix all our problems is just that. Sure it would make a substantial improvement, but it wont fix the capacity problems suffered by the loop/Flinders St bottleneck.

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Melbman's picture

The Doncaster rail link would be a great addition, but so would Rowville, Mernda and Melbourne Airport.

At the end of the day, the Metro Rail Tunnel will come first from the Public Transport priority projects because it is so important to allowing a number of other projects to occur, along with further boosting the capacity of the network. Add in new stations at Arden, Parkville and Domain, along with new CBD North and South, and the project further enhances the cities network coverage for a denser central area.

In the meantime, the govt should look at ways that buses can be used more even effectively into Doncaster and Melbourne airport, with further enhancements to infrastructure to facilitate growing demand. This will be a great way to not have high capital costs but still gain benefits for the coming decade before many projects have a chance to get underway.

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Alastair Taylor's picture

Melbourne Metro Rail. It's baaack.

had no response as yet

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Adam Carey in The Age: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-metro-rail-tunnel-project-re...

Sophie Aubrey / Matt Johnston in the HUN: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/melbourne-metro-rail-project-40m-announ...

Alison Savage on ABC: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-16/victorian-government-fast-tracks-f...

$40mil immediately available to set up a new authority to manage the project. HUN article mentions "start planning" (even though work has already been done under previous government) safe to assume planning will be picked up once more.

2018 tentative construction start, 2026 tenantive completion date. Still has a ball park $9-11bil figure on cost. A bit pithy for the HUN to mention "it is still unclear how the full project will be paid for" - I guess that's what the authority will actually nut out.

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Melbman's picture

Unless he can somehow get the Federal govt to pay up, this is a non-starter.

Hes in a far better position in the cycle than the previous govt were though, with Bill's Labor being handed the next election on a platter by Abbott. He will likely get a far more favourable ear on that one. At least Bill is a Victorian too :)

I like that things are progressing, but getting this to be a project that stacks up for private investors will be the interesting part. They will need some significant returns, or revenue potential to get it to even be considered.

As always, no point getting too excited about it as more than likely other things always get in the way.

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johnproctor's picture

The 'one third private' is not private funding it's private financing there's a difference. No different to peninsula link availability payment PPP model where private sector financed the project and state pays for it through availability oayment over life of the project.

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Martin Mankowski's picture

Given Abbott faces wipeout in Victoria at the next election, I'd say Andrews is a pretty good chance to convince him to redirect the EW Link funds to Metro Rail, even if it would be just an exercise in 'saving the furniture' for Abbott. As Melbman said, he'll probably lose anyway, in which case the federal funding for MM will almost certainly be restored. Either way I think its a fairly safe punt to begin the planning for a 2018 start now.

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Alastair Taylor's picture

The 'one third private' is not private funding it's private financing there's a difference. No different to peninsula link availability payment PPP model where private sector financed the project and state pays for it through availability oayment over life of the project.

This could be a case where in all likelihood big super funds could/would be approached to see if they're interested etc?

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Peter Maltezos's picture

http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/swanston-st-the-smartest-option-for-melbou...

Swanston St The Smartest Option For Melbourne Metro

Thursday 16 April 2015

Work has progressed on the Andrews Labor Government’s Melbourne Metro Rail Project. Premier Daniel Andrews joined Minister for Public Transport, Jacinta Allan, today to announce the preferred alignment and depth of two rail tunnels that will run through the Melbourne CBD.

The Melbourne Metro Rail Authority, established in February with $40 million in funding from the Labor Government, has conducted planning and technical work to determine the most appropriate route and depth for the nine-kilometre twin tunnels, which will deliver thousands of extra passengers to the city every day.

This work shows that building the tunnel underneath Swanston St is the most convenient location for commuters and the most cost-effective option for construction.

A proposed Russell St alignment wouldn’t allow passengers to transfer directly between the City Loop and the new tunnels – a key feature of the project.  An assessment of a proposed Elizabeth St alignment revealed unstable ground conditions and significant and costly engineering challenges.

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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/911b-melbourne-metro-swanston-street-p...

$9-11b Melbourne Metro Swanston Street project to go ahead: Daniel Andrews

April 16, 2015 - 9:55PM

​Clay Lucas

The proposed $9-11 billion Melbourne Metro project will be built underneath Swanston Street - despite warnings from the previous Napthine government it would divide Melbourne's CBD for years.

Premier Daniel Andrews confirmed the route of the long-promised underground rail line, from Kensington to South Yarra, on ABC radio on Thursday morning.

But neither he nor Public Transport Minister Jacinta Allan could answer basic questions about how the nine-kilometre tunnel would traverse the difficult path underneath the Yarra River.

yesThis article also includes a short Metro fly-through video.

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http://media.theage.com.au/video-news/video-national-news/melbourne-metr...

Melbourne Metro fly-through animation (04:29)

Around $118,000 was spent on this video to promote the Melbourne Metro project before it was cancelled by the previous Coalition government.

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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/metro-rail-half-a-billion-dollars-in-l...

Metro rail: Half a billion dollars in land acquisition for planned tunnel

April 17, 2015 - 6:51A

Clay Lucas

More than half a billion dollars in planned property acquisitions are being discussed within the Andrews government as it plots out the course of the difficult Melbourne Metro project.

The long-debated project – planning for which began in 2008 – took a significant step forward on Thursday when Premier Daniel Andrews went to the corner of Swanston and La Trobe streets.

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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/thousands-may-lose-direct-rail-service...

Thousands may lose direct rail services to South Yarra and Richmond

April 19, 2015 - 12:28AM

​Farrah Tomazin

One of the city's busiest train lines could be re-routed as part of the Melbourne Metro Rail project, leaving thousands of passengers without a direct service to South Yarra and Richmond stations. As the Andrews government starts planning how trains will use the new tunnel, one option is for the Cranbourne-Pakenham services to skip South Yarra and Richmond and travel directly from Hawksburn to Domain, one of the five underground stations that will be built as part of $11 billion project.

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Aussie Steve's picture

The Dandenong line already skips the MATH stations, but it will now also skip South Yarra and Richmond and anyone needing to go there will have to change at Caulfield, but what about the MATH people who don't get to use the new St Kilda Rd stations? They could and should be given the opportunity of getting off the Frankston line at South Yarra and connecting through to Domain etc. because there are many Stonnington residents who work along St Kilda Rd and would love the opportunity of getting to use Domain Station which they otherwise wouldn't and instead still have to use the slow trams along their inner city high streets.

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Melbman's picture

A South Yarra connection should be an important part of this project. Not adding that in would be a backward step IMHO.

In reality, this project gives us 3 brand new stations (Arden, Parkville and Domain) and 2 connections to existing transport hubs (Melb Central and FSS), and whilst a South Yarra connection would add cost it makes sense to include it.

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Check this out from the North West Rail Link:

The 12km of tunneling is only expected to take approx 30 months. Station construction 27 months.

Reckon it'll be possible for the disruptions to Swanston Street to be contained to a similar 24-27 month period? After all - in sourceable they quoted PT minister Allan as saying the tunnels between CBD North and South will still be a TBM, it just appears that the stations will be the great big whopping holes in the ground which disrupts everything.

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http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/1-5-billion-to-get-started-on-melbourne-me...

$1.5 Billion To Get Started On Melbourne Metro Rail Project

Tuesday 28 April 2015

The Andrews Labor Government has announced $1.5 billion to cover all anticipated planning, design and significant early works ahead of major construction of the Melbourne Metro Rail Project in 2018.

The huge funding injection provided in the 2015-16 Victorian Budget will allow the Melbourne Metro Rail Authority to complete the reference design, undertake the statutory planning process and get this public transport mega-project started.

The funding also provides for land acquisition, preparation of Expression of Interest and Request for Tender documents, and significant early works such as tram rerouting and service relocations, ahead of contract award and major construction of the tunnels.

Melbourne Metro Rail Project Video. A youtube link to a new Project video:

https://youtu.be/fTmiXH1tsOA.

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