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An interesting video about Canadian and Latin American cities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQfC6mKTErg

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Llib's picture

Very good publication on street design.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2010/03/22120652/6

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Llib's picture

I know its a divisive issue but I think it should be considered for Melbourne and Sydney,

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/07/congestion-charge-acciden...

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Llib's picture

Its no surprise that Docklands is not very walkable, I think this issue is overlooked in Melbourne with many developers not even integrating footpaths into new development, I believe there should be a law with minimum standards for foopath provision and other features to assist pedestrians.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbournes-most-liveable-suburbs-are-r...

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Martin Mankowski's picture

Yep - totally agree. And we can do it without the traders getting up in arms about it.

https://urban.melbourne/transport/2013/07/09/charge-it-up-decongesting-t...

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Llib's picture

The traders will actually benefit in the long run as PT investment and fewer cars actually improves retail trade.
Now is the time to do it to help get MM1 funded and other PT and cycling upgrades.

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Martin Mankowski's picture

True. But it would take a very brave government, from either side, to implement something the media would be quick to label as a new tax. Still IA strongly advocate it, as has Robert Doyle in the past, so if you could get bipartisan agreement, there may be hope...

The other problem with doing it before MM1 is built, is you need to be careful of being a victim of your own success. Take too many cars off the road at once, before your PT system can cope with it, and you have a whole new set of problems. Though I suspect this can be easily addressed by having a lower initial toll charge, and ramping it up as PT capacity is increased.

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Llib's picture

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/how-treating-pedestrians-better-will-bo...

Very good article and an area we overlook against motorised transport especially considering that improvements to walkability can be made at very low cost.

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Andrew's picture

Community participation for the future plans for COM bike strategy:
http://participate.melbourne.vic.gov.au/projects/draft-bicycle-plan-2016...

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Llib's picture

This is a total waste of money this money could have been used for other transport projects.

http://www.theage.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/east-west-needs-t...

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Llib's picture

I'm wondering could this concept work in Melbourne and if so where

https://vimeo.com/126652099

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This is the direction Melbourne is going in back to the 60's, proposing to ban bikes on certain streets.
I cannot believe how insane this proposal is for Melbourne,
politicians should listen to the advice of town planners.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/16/melbourne-mayors-p...

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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/exclusive-the-six-problems-ruining-mel...

Exclusive: the six problems ruining Melbourne's rail network

July 23, 2015 - 12:43AM Adam Carey, Clay Lucas

The list of weaknesses in Melbourne's rail network is so long that fixing it all would be unaffordable, according to an internal audit obtained by The Age, but Metro has warned the state government some of the problems are so critical they can no longer be ignored.

The internal audit has revealed the system is in such poor shape after decades of neglect that it cannot cope with expected demand unless hundreds of millions of dollars of failing infrastructure is renewed.

More than $950 million has been spent on the maintenance and renewal of the metropolitan rail network in the past four financial years, government figures show. Yet Metro's highly detailed five-year plan,  reveals the repair job remains huge and damages the reliability of virtually every aspect of the network.

1: LACK OF ELECTRICAL POWER

2: OUTMODED SIGNALLING

​3: INVISIBLE TRAINS

4: OUTMODED TECHNOLOGY

5: COMPLEX RAIL JUNCTIONS

6: RUN-DOWN STATIONS

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Nicholas Harrison's picture

How depressing.

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Alastair Taylor's picture

Many of them moot - power has to be done on a line-by-line (or group of lines) basis: Dandenong corridor / MMR will isloate lines when they're all complete therefore making them a candidate for upgrades.

Outmoded signalling - moot should the trial announced for Sandringham line be successful and rolled out progressively - again Dandenong/MMR project likely to see start of new signalling system

Invisible trains: see above point.

Complex Rail Junctions: project specific, depends on long-term plans. Caulfield likely to have something done to it in the next 10 years (related to Dandenong/MMR project) - Clifton Hill needs grade sepping. North Melbourne-Upfield/Craigieburn might need more track eventually. And last parts around Flinders -Richmond and Southern Cross-North Melbourne require plans to be set in stone for removing lines from the loop / running direct so that flyovers (if needed) can be built to allow trains to access platforms without affecting operations.

Rundown stations: yeah, you know what, clutching at straws - many stations will be upgraded re: grade separation projects, others: give thme a lick of paint.

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Alastair Taylor's picture

What wasn't in that article: still a sizeable amount of single track (toward ends of lines) on Cranbourne, Belgrave, Lilydale and Hurstbridge lines.

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Peter Maltezos's picture

http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/frankston-precinct-taskforce-recommendatio...

Frankston Precinct Taskforce Recommendations Released

Wednesday 26 August 2015

Recommendations for the Andrews Labor Government’s $63 million revitalisation of the Frankston Station Precinct have been released.

Station Precinct Taskforce Chair and Member for Frankston Paul Edbrooke officially provided the recommendations to the Minister for Public Transport, Jacinta Allan today.

Priority recommendations include:

• improving Frankston Station by rebuilding the station, consolidating buses on Young Street and upgrading the subway

• improving Young Street by creating a high quality pedestrian streetscape

• facilitating development of council and state government land

• providing better pedestrian connections with key destinations

• creating new public plazas

• delivering a range of integrated safety initiatives

• improving access and management of car parking

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johnproctor's picture

seriously how many 'bit and bobs' funding allocations have there been to Frankston the last 10 years that have done sweet fuck all to improve the 'experience' at the station. Need to actually throw enough money at it to make a real change not just cosmetic shit that never gets followed through.

would have been better spending the money on extending the line and getting carparking and turnbacks away from the Frankston area... then turning that land into development for passive surveillance, general activity etc. A spark station at Monash UNiversity would make sense as a short term extension and longer term it ties into the Baxter stabling proposal.

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Nicholas Harrison's picture

Frankston station needs a $630 mixed use redevelopment not another $63 million "coat of paint and land reserved for future development" plan.

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Nicholas Harrison's picture

New proposal looks good actually:

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Llib's picture

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbournes-rail-commuter-crush-worsens...

With the completion of the RRL, I am wondering why they didn't go through with the timetable revamp.

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Llib's picture

I don't see how continuing to subsidise private car use will benefit traders, it will only benefit motorists.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/maribyrnong-council-shelves-parking-me...

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Martin Mankowski's picture

What kind of a message does this send? From now on, if the council does something I don't like, all I need to do is go down to the council chambers and assault some councilors, and voila! They'll cave in to my demands. This is a sad day for true democracy.

Llib is absolutely right above. If those traders still believe their business model requires people to be able to drive to their front door, they are living in last century. This is a classic case of perception over ruling reality. And much like the St Kilda traders - R96 tram stand off, I hope they are made to apologise once the parking metres are reintroduced it is shown that they had no affect on crowd numbers.

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Llib's picture

Thanks Martin, it is quite sad although I am sure if you tried to argue this with them they would come back with illogical answers and demonise you instead so there's no point. They seriously believe that paid parking harms boutique shops and creates precincts with wall to wall cafes.

The opposite is true as many boutique shops have survived in the CBD precisely because of the foot traffic that good PT brings in.

If the money from the meters is put back into public transport and the amenity of the shopping centre, the net effect for the traders will be positive.

This issue of subsidised parking is something that needs to be addressed in Melbourne as the cost of providing parking is a wasteful use of resources and harms our economy and environment.
Unfortunately politics will get in the way and it will be difficult to address this problem.

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