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Zone 1-2 Fare system

Martin Mankowski's picture
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Not sure how I feel about this. Free trams in the city is a plus, though will only really have a huge effect at lunchtimes and weekends.  Most trips during the peak involve trips outside the hoddle grid, so commuters will still need to pay.

And I definitely dont agree with a one fare fits all for trains. Paying the same fare from Pakenham to the city as South Yarra or Brunswick to the city is absurd and unfair, and will only further encourage suburban sprawl.

And what about the loss of revenue?  PTV only recoups about 22% of operating costs through fares as it is, now the subsidies will have to be even greater.

I am all for restructuring our fare system (as discussed here) but this seems irrationally thought out. Still, its very politically palatable, and given many commuters will just see the dollar signs in their eyes, I suspect Labor will be hard pressed to denounce it.  A sad day all round.

 

Victorian Government to cut cost of train, tram travel between zones one and two

Updated 2 hours 44 minutes ago

The Victorian Government plans to cap the maximum daily fares on Melbourne's trams, buses and trains at zone one rates and will make trams in the CBD and Docklands free in a major transport announcement worth $100 million in the lead-up to the November state election.

Commuters travelling only in zone one or two get a discounted rate but those who travel between zones are heavily penalised.

Many people drive long distances to get to a zone one station to get the the lower fare according to Transport Minister Terry Mulder.

"So we're flattening that out to a single zone one fare," Mr Mulder said.

"But if they continue to travel in what we call the existing zone two they still get their current discounted fare."

Mr Mulder says for a couple travelling from zone two to zone one for work, the savings "will make a huge difference."

"The people who have an annual Myki pass, it will save them about $750 (a year).

People travelling on daily tickets could save as much as $1,200 a year.

Read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-26/state-government-to-cut-the-cost-o...

 

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Melbourne_Fragments's picture

how many people touch on when going between city stops anyway? just seems like acknowledging reality

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Alastair Taylor's picture

good point - will there actually be an increase in the amount of fare evaders for people who begin their trip on a tram inside CBD (like me) but travel outside of this free zone?

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Melbman's picture

I like this proposal.

Yes, I can see why some won't like it, but it at least seeks to alleviate transport costs for those who are in the outer suburbs, whilst giving those who only use short trips in the CBD free transport (ie. some office workers, tourists, CBD residents).

Some may say it is justifying extending urban sprawl, but lets be honest, the costs of buying houses even remotely close to the city these days is out of reach for most. Punishing those people for having to live out that far by charging significantly more is hardly ideal, whilst also still enduring longer commutes.

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Lopan's picture

This is fantastic news.

Very happy.

It is 100 % to go ahead, is that right?

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Llib's picture

Now that it is within a month of the changes there is the possibility of increased fares for shorter journeys

source: http://www.danielbowen.com/2014/12/08/fares-to-rise-five-percent/

I personally agree with Martins article on increasing the number of zones to 6 with a large discount for people travelling outside zone 1.

As the fare increases every year the rising cost of short fares will create all kinds of distortions such as being almost as cheap to drive a car short distances in the inner city if you have a residents permit or if you get 2 or more people in a taxi it will work out cheaper to catch a taxi for short distances.

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